The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

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lesleychow
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by lesleychow » Mon Oct 07, 2024 9:52 am

Hey guys,

First youth pull - is someone like this worth training? Played a bit of Battrick so I understand the premise, but not sure where a youth player needs to be to be worth investing in.

Player Info
16y0w | 21,212 rating | $763 wage (5% discount)

Right hand batsman | Left arm Medium

Talents Skilled (Power)
Nationality Australia Australia
Form reasonable
Fatigue rested
Experience dreadful
Captaincy average
Skills Summary
Batsman poor
Bowler poor
Keeper dreadful
Allrounder poor
Notes

Skills
Batting ordinary Endurance ordinary
Bowling ordinary Technique poor
Keeping poor Power poor
Fielding poor

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by boscorp » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:06 pm

lesleychow wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 9:52 am
Hey guys,

First youth pull - is someone like this worth training? Played a bit of Battrick so I understand the premise, but not sure where a youth player needs to be to be worth investing in.

Player Info
16y0w | 21,212 rating | $763 wage (5% discount)

Right hand batsman | Left arm Medium

Talents Skilled (Power)
Nationality Australia Australia
Form reasonable
Fatigue rested
Experience dreadful
Captaincy average
Skills Summary
Batsman poor
Bowler poor
Keeper dreadful
Allrounder poor
Notes

Skills
Batting ordinary Endurance ordinary
Bowling ordinary Technique poor
Keeping poor Power poor
Fielding poor
I'd say yes for the time being. He isn't the best youth that you will recruit but he will be good enough for the lower divs and possibly better than some of your existing squad.
Or you can go to the transfer market and compare your player to others the same age that are for sale. There may even be some older more skilled ones already with some training at a cheap price. It kind of depends what level you plan to have your academy at aswell.
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by casperj » Tue Oct 08, 2024 4:37 pm

lesleychow wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 9:52 am
Hey guys,

First youth pull - is someone like this worth training? Played a bit of Battrick so I understand the premise, but not sure where a youth player needs to be to be worth investing in.

Player Info
16y0w | 21,212 rating | $763 wage (5% discount)

Right hand batsman | Left arm Medium

Talents Skilled (Power)
Nationality Australia Australia
Form reasonable
Fatigue rested
Experience dreadful
Captaincy average
Skills Summary
Batsman poor
Bowler poor
Keeper dreadful
Allrounder poor
Notes

Skills
Batting ordinary Endurance ordinary
Bowling ordinary Technique poor
Keeping poor Power poor
Fielding poor
Yeah definitely worth keeping, especially for a new team. I'd train fielding until the Fielding is reasonable, and then move to Bowling or Bowling tech.

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by rabbitohbill » Sat Oct 12, 2024 9:41 pm

I've been in this game for a over a decade, still trying to work out the point of players 21 to 27yrs old in this game. I just cannot find a use for them.
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by boscorp » Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:51 pm

rabbitohbill wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2024 9:41 pm
I've been in this game for a over a decade, still trying to work out the point of players 21 to 27yrs old in this game. I just cannot find a use for them.
Each to their own, there are so many different ways to play the game and enjoy it. One mans trash is another mans treasure. One way is you can save up and buy the players with experience and already trained in their older years as they approach their peak to maintain a strong side. Some others like to invest in an academy so they can train a young player and play him for experience throughout the ages of 21 to 27 yrs old to sell to a side like yours, Some players wont use the transfer market at all.
Wage discounts are applied for retaining a player longer which has an impact. Fortunately a lot of people play the game in different ways for their satisfaction.
Some like to see the results of training a player through to a high standard, some would rather wait and buy the end result. Some like to go through their clubs stats centre and view their best players etc.
Craven Moorehead has been with your club from 16yrs old and now at 28 has played over a 100 senior matches for your club, a regular in your side with an ave of 48.9, 9 centuries and 18 50's. Fortunately you found a use for him as he looks to be a pretty good player.
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lankyitfc
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by lankyitfc » Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:24 pm

Any tips for this one?



16y1w | 23,187 rating | $755 wage (5% discount)

Right hand batsman | Left arm Medium

Talents Gifted (Fielding)
Nationality Netherlands Netherlands
Form reasonable
Fatigue rested
Experience dreadful
Captaincy average
Skills Summary
Batsman poor
Bowler dreadful
Keeper ordinary
Allrounder poor
Notes

Skills
Batting ordinary Endurance poor
Bowling dreadful Technique poor
Keeping reasonable Power poor
Fielding average

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by GA-PowerBug » Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:13 pm

Keep-Bat training for the most part. Use Bat Tech training to close the gap between tech and Keeping to 2 levels. Wouldn't worry about fielding given the talent will allow it to tick along well enough through Keep-Bat training.
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by lankyitfc » Tue Nov 12, 2024 11:03 am

Thank you, that is good advice. I do have another one that has stumped me, given the talents, any hope of making this one an ok lower division bowler?

16y0w | 15,738 rating | $572 wage (5% discount)

Right hand batsman | Left arm Medium

Talents New Ball Bowler, Swing
Nationality England England
Form reasonable
Fatigue rested
Experience dreadful
Captaincy poor
Skills Summary
Batsman poor
Bowler dreadful
Keeper dreadful
Allrounder dreadful
Notes

Skills
Batting ordinary Endurance dreadful
Bowling dreadful Technique average
Keeping poor Power poor
Fielding dreadful

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by casperj » Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:43 pm

lankyitfc wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 11:03 am
Thank you, that is good advice. I do have another one that has stumped me, given the talents, any hope of making this one an ok lower division bowler?

16y0w | 15,738 rating | $572 wage (5% discount)

Right hand batsman | Left arm Medium

Talents New Ball Bowler, Swing
Nationality England England
Form reasonable
Fatigue rested
Experience dreadful
Captaincy poor
Skills Summary
Batsman poor
Bowler dreadful
Keeper dreadful
Allrounder dreadful
Notes

Skills
Batting ordinary Endurance dreadful
Bowling dreadful Technique average
Keeping poor Power poor
Fielding dreadful
I don't think so unfortunately - annyoing because of the talents, but it's a long way from dreadful bowling to something useable and his fielding also needs fixing.

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by boscorp » Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:22 pm

1 batting talent - bats better against seam bowlers and 1 bowling talent - bowls better in the opening overs.
If your wanting to keep him I would train him as a batsman as he doesn't really fit the mold for an opening bowler even in the lower divs.
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by Mike778 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 12:06 pm

lankyitfc wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 11:03 am
Thank you, that is good advice. I do have another one that has stumped me, given the talents, any hope of making this one an ok lower division bowler?

16y0w | 15,738 rating | $572 wage (5% discount)

Right hand batsman | Left arm Medium

Talents New Ball Bowler, Swing
Nationality England England
Form reasonable
Fatigue rested
Experience dreadful
Captaincy poor
Skills Summary
Batsman poor
Bowler dreadful
Keeper dreadful
Allrounder dreadful
Notes

Skills
Batting ordinary Endurance dreadful
Bowling dreadful Technique average
Keeping poor Power poor
Fielding dreadful
Suspect he has been fired by now.

With these low primary players but duel talents though I sometimes think its worth giving them one or two weeks training just in case. If he popped first week in both bowling and technique then he would be poor/reasonable. That is the equivalant of ordinary/average which would be an interesting project with duel talents.

Having said that the 15k is the deal breaker. Dont know the spares sums but indicates that duel pop in a week is probably unlikely.

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by lankyitfc » Tue Nov 26, 2024 12:33 pm

Mike778 wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2024 12:06 pm
lankyitfc wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 11:03 am
Thank you, that is good advice. I do have another one that has stumped me, given the talents, any hope of making this one an ok lower division bowler?

16y0w | 15,738 rating | $572 wage (5% discount)

Right hand batsman | Left arm Medium

Talents New Ball Bowler, Swing
Nationality England England
Form reasonable
Fatigue rested
Experience dreadful
Captaincy poor
Skills Summary
Batsman poor
Bowler dreadful
Keeper dreadful
Allrounder dreadful
Notes

Skills
Batting ordinary Endurance dreadful
Bowling dreadful Technique average
Keeping poor Power poor
Fielding dreadful
Suspect he has been fired by now.

With these low primary players but duel talents though I sometimes think its worth giving them one or two weeks training just in case. If he popped first week in both bowling and technique then he would be poor/reasonable. That is the equivalant of ordinary/average which would be an interesting project with duel talents.

Having said that the 15k is the deal breaker. Dont know the spares sums but indicates that duel pop in a week is probably unlikely.
Thanks! I did only just retire, having kept just for a few weeks to see what happened. Alas, no pops.

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by malik66junaid » Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:15 am


I have never been good at training my players. That's why I'm always buying players who can do well for me without much of training, so any suggestions on how to train this young Australian who has represented his country at junior level.


22y13w | 59,742 rating | $15,876 wage (0% discount)

Right hand batsman | Left arm Medium

Talents Finisher
Nationality Australia
Form reasonable
Fatigue energetic
Experience reliable
Captaincy reasonable

Skills Summary

Batsman outstanding
Bowler poor
Keeper spectacular
Allrounder ordinary

Skills

Batting spectacular
Endurance reliable
Bowling poor
Technique exceptional
Keeping spectacular
Power ordinary
Fielding spectacular

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by boscorp » Sun Dec 08, 2024 3:36 am

My thoughts are you put him on power for a while as that would train quickest between 23 and 27. I don't have much experience training seniors and imagine there may be some better advice to include.
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