The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by Muff » Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:06 pm

As a bowler you can make use of his batting but not the other way.

Make him a bowler, put him into fielding to reliable first to help close the tech gap. Then bowl tech training
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by Nori » Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:14 pm

Got a good youth pull today: Normally I'd go fielding, then batting all the way, but will need an A/R in the next year or two: Would you go A/R after fielding or pure bat?

I'm thinking:-
-Fielding to reliable
-technique to reliable (swapping between bowl & batting to see if one of them pop as well)
-if batting & bowling both reasonable by then, go A/R
-if bowling still ordinary, go just batting

Any thoughts?

16y0w | 28,027 rating | $1,028 wage (5% discount)

Left hand batsman | Right arm Finger spin

Talents Accumulator, Gifted (Keeping)
Nationality Canada Canada
Form reasonable
Fatigue rested
Experience poor
Captaincy accomplished

Batting average Endurance ordinary
Bowling ordinary Technique average
Keeping poor Power ordinary
Fielding reasonable

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by Muff » Mon Dec 12, 2022 7:46 pm

Nori wrote:
Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:14 pm
Got a good youth pull today: Normally I'd go fielding, then batting all the way, but will need an A/R in the next year or two: Would you go A/R after fielding or pure bat?

I'm thinking:-
-Fielding to reliable
-technique to reliable (swapping between bowl & batting to see if one of them pop as well)
-if batting & bowling both reasonable by then, go A/R
-if bowling still ordinary, go just batting

Any thoughts?

16y0w | 28,027 rating | $1,028 wage (5% discount)

Left hand batsman | Right arm Finger spin

Talents Accumulator, Gifted (Keeping)
Nationality Canada Canada
Form reasonable
Fatigue rested
Experience poor
Captaincy accomplished

Batting average Endurance ordinary
Bowling ordinary Technique average
Keeping poor Power ordinary
Fielding reasonable
4k spares indicates some pops, could be in bowling & fitness

Id just put him into AR after fielding, it trains more overall than switching between bat tech & bowl tech. But less technique training so its always good when technique is at average or higher to begin with
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by casperj » Mon Dec 12, 2022 7:51 pm

Nori wrote:
Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:14 pm
Got a good youth pull today: Normally I'd go fielding, then batting all the way, but will need an A/R in the next year or two: Would you go A/R after fielding or pure bat?
Any thoughts?

16y0w | 28,027 rating | $1,028 wage (5% discount)

Left hand batsman | Right arm Finger spin
Talents Accumulator, Gifted (Keeping)
Nationality Canada Canada
Form reasonable
Fatigue rested
Experience poor
Captaincy accomplished

Batting average Endurance ordinary
Bowling ordinary Technique average
Keeping poor Power ordinary
Fielding reasonable
I'd be tempted to go full batting. Finger spinner not great bowling type for an A/R, and I'd want to maximise the left handed batting and batting talent. Also given his captaincy, he'd make a good captain, but that might mean him taking a lot of endurance hit during matches if he's also an A/R

However... he could make a good A/R, and if you need one then that's definitely a factor to consider. He has quite a lot of spare rating so my advice would be:
Train fielding to Capable (so you know it's close to base)
Train Batting to Reasonable (so you know it's also close to base).

At that point assess how much spare rating he has still left. Then you can make a judgement as to whether it's worth trying to go bowling training for a while to get him to A/R, or just sticking to fielding/batting. You'd want him to have popped bowling to average before he turns 17 if he's going to be an A/R.
The thing with training bowling or A/R is the Bowling is wasted unless the player actually turns into an A/R, whereas batting training is never really wasted, so I think it's best to try and get an idea of how close he is likely to be to avg bowling before committing to any bowling training.

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by Nori » Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:55 am

Thanks @casperj & @muff, appreciate the advice!

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by Mike778 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:05 pm

How do you know how much spare rating a player has

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by GA-James018 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:35 pm

The process is:
  1. Convert all the seven main skills to numbers and add them together. Atrocious = 0.5, then dreadful = 1, poor = 2, ordinary = 3 and so on.
  2. Multiply by 1,000.
  3. Subtract this from the player's rating.
To use the most recent player posted by Nori. His skills are average (4), ordinary (3), ordinary (3), average (4), poor (2), ordinary (3) and reasonable (5). His rating is 28,027.
  1. 4 + 3 + 3 + 4 + 2 + 3 + 5 = 24.
  2. 24 * 1,000 = 24,000.
  3. 28,027 - 24,000 = 4,027.
So, he has 4,027 spares. As the minimum he can have is 0 and the maximum is 7,000, that means he's a little over halfway to the next pop on average (although it's likely there are some skills closer to a pop and some further away).
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by Mike778 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:30 pm

So 1000 a level from dreadful.

Thanks. Thought it would be more complicated and less linear. Can get calculator out now.

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by malik66junaid » Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:43 am

My Academies Level is Excellent

Player Details

Age 22y 8w

Rating 46,616

Batting outstanding
Technique spectacular
Fielding expert
Endurance reliable
Power average

Currently training for Fielding, Last training pop was Fielding and Technique both on 1st February

Any ideas on how should I train him?

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by casperj » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:40 am

malik66junaid wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:43 am
My Academies Level is Excellent

Player Details

Age 22y 8w

Rating 46,616

Batting outstanding
Technique spectacular
Fielding expert
Endurance reliable
Power average

Currently training for Fielding, Last training pop was Fielding and Technique both on 1st February

Any ideas on how should I train him?
I'd go fielding until you get him to Outstanding level (so one more 'pop') then switch to Batting Tech. When he reaches 24 I'd move onto Strength training for a while, mixing in a bit more batting tech when you have got a few power pops done.

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by malik66junaid » Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:55 pm

casperj wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:40 am
malik66junaid wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:43 am
My Academies Level is Excellent

Player Details

Age 22y 8w

Rating 46,616

Batting outstanding
Technique spectacular
Fielding expert
Endurance reliable
Power average

Currently training for Fielding, Last training pop was Fielding and Technique both on 1st February

Any ideas on how should I train him?
I'd go fielding until you get him to Outstanding level (so one more 'pop') then switch to Batting Tech. When he reaches 24 I'd move onto Strength training for a while, mixing in a bit more batting tech when you have got a few power pops done.
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by casperj » Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:49 pm

StefB wrote:
Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:11 am

Hi. In the answer above why Batting Tech and not Batting - he's lower in batting so I would have thought that one?

Also I asked in quick questions but not heard anything so, though not strickly training, would I get more experience from playing a div 5 youth game or a div 4 senior T20 game please?
Sorry, must have misread your original post. Yes do Batting rather than batting tech after the fielding pop.

I think that youth games give more experience than senior games as a rule, so if you got a good youth prospect priortise playing them in youth games. If you can fit them into the odd senior game then fine, but the priority should be to get them playing all the youth games.

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by GM-crowfan65 » Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:11 am

until YT20 started
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