Youth Recruit Summary

[boscorp]

I am working on creating a table on the yr page in a hope to encourage those who can to recruit from the lower supplied countries

I don't think this problem will go away until after there are leagues set up in all the countries and then some limits put in place like charging credits to recruit from a non random country or a cap of x non random recruits per season for members.
The recruiting drives from the active Nat managers appears to be a make a good difference also. Enough to swing my support to USA anyway.

[ukrooster]

And thank you for the support.

USA have plummeted off the face of the map in terms of ranking and competitiveness, the number of good youths to choose from is limited.

I remember the last time I ran competitions, it was a while ago, a few seasons later, we went through a decent spell, and we were competitive. So I'm hoping for a renaissance after these last two find the ball comps. I will also run some more next season to add a further boost.

[CricketGodMate977]

And thank you for the support.

USA have plummeted off the face of the map in terms of ranking and competitiveness, the number of good youths to choose from is limited.

I remember the last time I ran competitions, it was a while ago, a few seasons later, we went through a decent spell, and we were competitive. So I'm hoping for a renaissance after these last two find the ball comps. I will also run some more next season to add a further boost.

Credit where it's due, you've certainly set up some very interesting comps the last couple of seasons with those "Find the Ball" comps. Abeeshake002 from the Senior Dutch team has set up the last couple of comps for us. Noticed a significant drop in Dutch recruiters in Season 57 (Or those who posted them in the forums).

[boscorp]

I am working on creating a table on the yr page in a hope to encourage those who can to recruit from the lower supplied countries

Any news on this?
South Africa is only retaining 13-15 recruits each week at the moment and with 3 tours spread over the season the odds are in your favor to recruit a national player that goes on a tour. Having a decent academy improves the chance also.

[GM-crowfan65]

It will be in shortly, we have another programmer to help with the regular one being busy with real life work

[Eepan]

Sad to see the state of South Africa U20, FTP is way more fun when you communicate

Players unfortunately know pulling South Africa means radio silence at the moment from the U20 setup

It's how we've improved Zimbabwe's player pool, Pokémon Challenge into other content

[boscorp]

Sad to see the state of South Africa U20, FTP is way more fun when you communicate

Players unfortunately know pulling South Africa means radio silence at the moment from the U20 setup

It's how we've improved Zimbabwe's player pool, Pokémon Challenge into other content

Yes, I agree. Communication is important and competitions are rewarding. The Pokemon Challenge has been very successful for Zimbabwe and pretty much ensures their success in the future.
However with all the benefits it brings to Zimbabwe it is the other countries that get left behind. Pretty much the exact same problem we have spent numerous seasons trying to overcome when Australia was dominating the recruits.
Take last week. 399 retained recruits and 46 went to Zimbabwe. That is out of 20 countries. SA isn't the only country at a loss.
Competitions are great but the better they are only seems to increase the gap in distribution.
Hopefully when there are all 20 countries with competitive leagues non members will again be able to automatically recruit for the country where their club is based.

[Eepan]

Sad to see the state of South Africa U20, FTP is way more fun when you communicate

Players unfortunately know pulling South Africa means radio silence at the moment from the U20 setup

It's how we've improved Zimbabwe's player pool, Pokémon Challenge into other content

Yes, I agree. Communication is important and competitions are rewarding. The Pokemon Challenge has been very successful for Zimbabwe and pretty much ensures their success in the future.
However with all the benefits it brings to Zimbabwe it is the other countries that get left behind. Pretty much the exact same problem we have spent numerous seasons trying to overcome when Australia was dominating the recruits.
Take last week. 399 retained recruits and 46 went to Zimbabwe. That is out of 20 countries. SA isn't the only country at a loss.
Competitions are great but the better they are only seems to increase the gap in distribution.
Hopefully when there are all 20 countries with competitive leagues non members will again be able to automatically recruit for the country where their club is based.

It does seem many people just stick with country they are from

I just am thinking about how we can improve the game as a whole

Do we want new players joining communities where new player questions are answered, competitions are ran, content is created around the national team

Or minimal effort, no communication from many nations, not just South Africa,

But I guess it's a call for u20 setups to step up and do better, as it's far more likely for a new player to randomly get a great pull, then have a academy high enough to have a senior player in contention

Zimbabwe should be rewarding for going above and beyond to help the game grow, Australia is a different situation, as it was the best by default established players, rather than u20 management effort,

we need to find a way to make everyone put out content as a minimum, to help the game grow

My dream would be Bangladesh, Ireland, Zimbabwe at the top, England, Australia, South Africa at the bottom,so that nat management effort would be rewarded, plus players would go, how are these big nations struggling, let me take over and improve things to help the game grow

[boscorp]

I'm all for improving the game. National Management should be seen to be active by monitoring the forum and answering questions, creating content for the country and even having competitions and writing match reports. The reward is in getting elected and managing the National Squad.
That dream you have of being at the top should be achievable once there is a better way of distributing the players more evenly. Until then it wont be as accurate as the dream you detailed. However, as I was saying about the 399 retained youth last week. 46 went to Zimbabwe at the expense of Bangladesh who got just 8. The big 4 still got their full quota of players. Thats why I feel the situation wont improve.
Yes you can go offering free memberships to new players to secure recruits. A big wallet will get you there. I think the real solution lays somewhere else.
I would of expected more Bangladesh recruits and less from the top 4 to be randomly allocated the following week but it didn't happen.

[Eepan]

True FTP do sponsor prizes if you have a creative idea and actually run it, but definately 100% pay to win isn't the answer.

Finding the solution of balancing out the top teams is the golden question, as you don't want to punish players for liking a big country, but ideally 60% club effort, 40% international effort, would be used to determine the top countries in frp rather than at the moment it's 90 /10 split, or even 95/5 split currently

Random youth pull percentage needs work surely,

I still think partnering free competitions with the community building should have the advantage over little effort, but how to balance

[GM-crowfan65]

Zimbabwe should be rewarding for going above and beyond to help the game grow, Australia is a different situation, as it was the best by default established players, rather than u20 management effort,

Prior to me taking over the game I ran season long YR comps in differing ways, at the time Aus had won nothing and missed WC and were not in div 1 very often. It is no accident they were where they were at the time I took over and we started to make changes to the YR system. Random YR reduced Aust >800 and >1000 waged plaers by half. They have been very effective in balancing numbers better that before. And in the end we understand that we wont have a perfectly even field but do they have that in real cricket?

FTR the game has run their own YR comps but did so for all nations, we have never sponsored a single nations YR comp.

Furthermore Bangladesh and Zimbabwe plus UAE have all had success in U20 in recent times.
Bermuda Bangladesh and Zimbabwe are currently in div 1 for YOD

[Eepan]

I see more details about youth recruit number and managers leaving the game or joining will definitely help,

Whereas I'm sorry me speculating without quoting facts isn't helping, so I do apologise I'm sorry

Hopefully my suggestions shows I'm trying to think of ways to increase nat involvement,

To reach more newer player to give them a greater chance of staying, to help the game grow

[RossJones]

To suggest poor youth pulls causes players to leave FTP is NUTS

Players joining the game want to WIN (don't we all), when they don't it is offski ..gone .
If only they ask for a mentor then they got a chance to learn the game and enjoy.
I got no idea as to how yth players are allocated , just treat it as a lottery ; get a bad/good/star , and trust me you will get a STAR at some stage.

As for running comps, to get more players to pull players from your country > should be banned > seeking to gain an unfair advantage.

On another topic STUMPED has ended 2day , sad after 7 yrs to see another cricket game end. Possibly went a step too far in making it COMPLICATED to get into even with a mentor.
Hopefully we can get more members joining from there.

[Muff]

FTP is way more fun when you communicate

I get annoyed when I get messages from Nat managers that aren’t a specific request about a player.

If it’s generic, keep it in the forums or discord, I couldn’t give a toss about how a tour went or if a new manager intends to work really hard for the community

[Eepan]

FTP is way more fun when you communicate

I get annoyed when I get messages from Nat managers that aren’t a specific request about a player.

If it’s generic, keep it in the forums or discord, I couldn’t give a toss about how a tour went or if a new manager intends to work really hard for the community

True I've only sent 1 message which was plugging the forum and competitions we do have, but match reports or generic stuff definately belong on forum or discord