Experience based on pitches played on

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Experience based on pitches played on

Post by vietd » Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:43 am

Just throwing an idea out there where a player's experience is based on the pitches they have played on.

For example, some batsmen/bowlers may play a lot on dry pitches but not so much on hard pitches.

This may allow for teams to become specialists on certain pitches. Selfishly, I can punish the teams that keep playing 3+ fast bowlers against me on dry/slow pitches even further :roll:

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Re: Experience based on pitches played on

Post by GM-crowfan65 » Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:49 am

i think playing with the talents but also given spin and seam specialist are already in there do we need it?
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Re: Experience based on pitches played on

Post by vietd » Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:53 am

We don't necessarily need this change. It's a suggestion.

But it does allow you to develop your players to be play on some pitches more than others and is something in your control whereas talents are randomly assigned.

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Re: Experience based on pitches played on

Post by quirkilyalive » Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:57 am

I think nat-wise it'll end up favouring the stronger nations even more. The weaker nations will have a set of bats that will tour irrespective of conditions except maybe a change or two whilst the stronger ones will have the power to change bats according to pitches.

Also reduces how useful pitch changes can potentially be as I tend to do them a lot and with this my bats can potentially not have enough experience in any pitch.
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Re: Experience based on pitches played on

Post by GM-crowfan65 » Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:16 am

I think it has merit but perhaps using the talents more
I need to check the % chance of any of the talents being applied
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Re: Experience based on pitches played on

Post by vietd » Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:04 am

quirkilyalive wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:57 am
I think nat-wise it'll end up favouring the stronger nations even more. The weaker nations will have a set of bats that will tour irrespective of conditions except maybe a change or two whilst the stronger ones will have the power to change bats according to pitches.

Also reduces how useful pitch changes can potentially be as I tend to do them a lot and with this my bats can potentially not have enough experience in any pitch.
I would agree stronger nations would have more bats to choose from to cover more pitches. It does mean bats from weaker nations could play more games than stronger nations, I don't know if this is good or bad, it's just different. NAT Managers from stronger nations would also need to work a little harder to take advantage of their depth in finding players with more experience on specific pitches.

At club level, it's a question of would you rather be excellent at one pitch or be decent at all of them. The balance could be very tricky. Also, experience is not meant to be an overwhelming factor, just something if managed well could give you an advantage.

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Re: Experience based on pitches played on

Post by Madcarrot » Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:40 am

I'm pretty sure I made this suggestion once before.

I think it's a good idea, but also think there should be some kind of just general experience for playing cricket, so maybe the word experience can be replaced with pitch familiarity or something like that.

I think it adds another dimension to your tactics, and for people who develop players in order to sell them it could be interesting too.

A fast bowler with exceptional experience on dry pitches would be interesting.

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Re: Experience based on pitches played on

Post by vietd » Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:07 pm

Yeah maybe something like base experience + pitch experience/familiarity could work.

Base experience would work as experience currently works or maybe caps at a lower point than legendary. Pitch experience/familiarity is just another thing to factor in.

One of the aims of my suggestion was so that it could reflect real life where some batsmen find it difficult on another country's pitch. There are still players that bat well anywhere and some that struggle on spinning wickets or against a seaming ball.

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Re: Experience based on pitches played on

Post by Turbz » Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:08 am

I would like to see experience based on game type, OD/T20s, rather than on pitches. If you play more T20 matches than OD matches, then you would have more experience playing that format. Playing one game type would still give some experience to the other game type, but not as much.
Also could extend that to Nats, cap club experience to world class and only players playing internationals could reach legendary experience.

There is already different skill summaries from OD to T20, could have a tab on the player page that switches between OD/T20 summaries and experience, and even have form as being different for each game type separated from skills.

Just looking at one of my bats, which has had 107 OD innings.
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Re: Experience based on pitches played on

Post by vietd » Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:49 am

All nice suggestions Turbz. I don't mind the split between T20 and OD nor the cap on experience.

With your batsmen and my original idea, I would expect your batsmen to be quite masterful on uneven pitches but not as familiar on flat pitches although you could have flat pitch experience be equal to the highest pitch experience you have since flat is batsmen friendly as a unique mechanic.

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Re: Experience based on pitches played on

Post by Madcarrot » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:26 am

I like the switch between SOD and T20 experience. I think it could easily get out of hand with too many types of experience but it makes for different strategies.

If I had a good seam outfit and was playing against Turbz I might be inclined to go hard or green against him.

If I'm looking for a player on the market my batters have high experience in spin pitches, I might look for someone who is better at seam pitches to balance my team.

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Re: Experience based on pitches played on

Post by wolfberries » Thu Nov 24, 2022 12:32 pm

I like this idea, certainly pros and cons as there is with most things, but you just need to decide whether the pros outweigh the cons.

You get this in RL, so why not FTP.

The idea gets a :thumbsup from me.

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