The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by GM-crowfan65 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:04 pm

But it is not 1 level even if you only trained primaries between superior and deluxe
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by GM-crowfan65 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:10 pm

Pot and kettle right there

The difference is not 3 levels
The numbers Smiddie suggests are similar to mine and I bet just about everyone else will tell you the same but of course you know best so lets leave the conversation here and agree to disagree
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by Brunel37 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:02 pm

Hi everyone!

I have been playing this game for a while now but never have really understood the best way to train players. I was just hoping for some insight into general training methods and regimes as my go-to play style has been to develop homegrown youngsters (I have not actually made a transfer since joining). I have a superior senior academy and a lavish youth academy.

I am going to list a few players for whom I would be grateful for some specific regimes but I also have a few general questions:
- How long do you train fielding for?
- When do you train power/endurance?
- Should I be training mostly primaries on 20yo players?

A few youngsters:

Owais Ayaz Pakistan
19 years old | 34,621 rating | $2,029 wage | Left hand batsman | Right arm Finger spin | Natural Leader
ordinary experience | capable form | rested fatigue | average captaincy
Batting ordinary Endurance average Fielding reasonable
Bowling reliable Technique capable
Keeping ordinary Power ordinary

Tariq Alam Bangladesh
19 years old | 36,365 rating | $2,316 wage | Right hand batsman | Right arm Fast | Skilled (Bowling)
average experience | average form | rested fatigue | expert captaincy
Batting reasonable Endurance reasonable Fielding reasonable
Bowling capable Technique capable
Keeping ordinary Power ordinary

A few olders:

Ukkuwa Amerasinghe Sri Lanka
22 years old | 39,103 rating | $7,118 wage | Left hand batsman | Right arm Fast | Prodigy
reasonable experience | average form | rested fatigue | average captaincy
Batting outstanding Endurance capable Fielding capable
Bowling poor Technique expert
Keeping atrocious Power poor

Saeed Das Bangladesh
20 years old | 41,805 rating | $4,256 wage | Right hand batsman | Right arm Medium | New Ball Bowler, Seam Specialist
average experience | capable form | rested fatigue | reasonable captaincy
Batting poor Endurance reliable Fielding capable
Bowling expert Technique accomplished
Keeping ordinary Power average
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by TheWizard » Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:44 pm

Most players should be aiming for spectacular fielding. If you've got a gun fast bowler or all-rounder then outstanding is fine in my view. For keepers, I'd try and keep fielding 2 or 3 levels below keeping skill. If a player has 'safe hands' then I'd usually go a level below what I normally would.

Power trains at the same pace from the ages 23 to 27. So do most of your strength training in that period. I'd very rarely train strength before a player turns 23, as it's pretty slow and you should really be focusing on primaries and fielding.

For the players you've listed..

Owais Ayaz - My advice would be get fielding to capable. Then onto bowling tech until both bowling and technique reach accompished. Then back onto fielding training until it is level with bowling. Then rotate between bowling and fielding up until fielding reaches spectacular (make sure this is done by the time he turns 23) After that just focus on primaries.

Tariq Alam - Depends on what your club side needs, do you want an all-rounder? or just a bowler who can bat a bit? Given he's a fast bowler I'd be inclined to leave his batting where it is. In which case, fielding until capable, bowling and bowling tech until accomplished. Fielding until outstanding, back on primaries until you want to start power.

Ukkuwa Amerasinghe - Needs fielding. I'd take fielding to spectacular. That will probably take around 25-30 weeks depending on your academy. Then back onto primaries until you start power.

Saeed Das - Also needs fielding. I'd spend this season on fielding. Then do 1 fielding pop per season until it reaches spectacular, with the rest of your time on primaries. After that back fully onto primaries before you start power.

Hope that helps.
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by Jim » Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:50 pm

Hellbound81 wrote:Your 9-12% is based on a mature senior player.

If you honestly believe that the training efficiency of deluxe senior over 10 seasons is the same as deluxe youth over 4 season then you have definitely broken my mind here.
You’ve broken you own mind.
That % is per training. So over a season youths or seniors the difference between a deluxe and superior would work out to be roughly 1.5 extra trainings a season. So over 3-4 youth seasons, barely enough for half a sub level of primaries.
But that extra training will cost you 50k a week more. Haven’t been near deluxe since I ran a youth farm.
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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by antikato » Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:29 pm

I'm probably going to sell this guy in 2-3 seasons. He's just popped fielding and I'm thinking of continuing him on that. My problem is whether to then do another round of A/R or switch to bowling.

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21 years | 51,025 rating | $7,154 wage (7% discount)

Right hand batsman | Left arm Finger spin

Talents Skilled (Power), Safe Hands
Nationality New Zealand New Zealand
Form reasonable
Fatigue rested
Experience accomplished
Captaincy average
Skills Summary
Batsman expert
Bowler expert
Keeper average
Allrounder expert
Skills
Batting expert Endurance capable
Bowling expert Technique expert
Keeping ordinary Power reasonable
Fielding accomplished

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Re: The "How to Train?" topic (part 2)

Post by Jim » Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:34 pm

I’d go fielding to outstanding and then push for the three outstanding primaries.
He’s a beast so I’d say he’s the kind of AR you want to take to spec batting I reakon
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